Opening
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:00): The last time you were on this podcast, you had this hot take that people were sleeping on Claude Code. You were so unbelievably right. The premise of this episode is we're going to go through what else you predict will happen. Dan Shipper (00:00:10): The AI jobpocalypse is not really a thing. I am super, super bullish on PMs and full stack designers....
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Accept praise cleanly
Dan Shipper (00:04:29): Thank you. I really appreciate the introduction. And yeah, I think one of the things about predicting the future or the way...
Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.
Ask with curiosity
because you need the engineers to figure out, okay, this is all slop. How should this actually go in our code base? And I think that's something that the benchmarks rising doesn't really capture and...
Turns a moment that could become critique into a question about the guest's thinking.
Low-ego framing
definition programmer is expanding enough that they'll have a big market, but I don't know that they're going to jump into like, "Okay, use this to make a slide deck," or whatever. But it is really clear that...
Uses we/us, uncertainty, or learner framing instead of performing authority.
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Lenny Rachitsky (01:33:40): Dan, thank you so much for being here. Dan Shipper (01:33:42): Thank you. Lenny Rachitsky (01:33:43): Thank you so much for...
Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.
Ending
(01:32:46): There is. I switched back and forth. I truly do still use Claude a lot. Lenny Rachitsky (01:32:50): Yeah. Such a big market. Well, Dan, we did it. We went through so much. I can't wait to revisit this in a year/get this out so people can start planning for this next year. Two final questions. Where can folks find you and every, what should people know? And then how can listeners be useful to you?...
The ending stays curious after the formal conversation is almost done.