Opening
Ebi Atawodi (00:00:00): I do not believe in being liked. I believe in being loved, right? And that's a very, very different thing. When I said this once in a meeting, people were like... Yes, right? But it took me a while in reading a lot of books to come to a definition of love and love is the choice to extend yourself for the spiritual growth of oneself or another, right? It's very big, lofty and whatever, but you're literally extending yourself for somebody else or yourself, self-love, right? And that's love....
The segment is an original transcript moment first. The interpretation should stay attached to what the language actually does.
Accept praise cleanly
Lenny (00:01:00): Ebi Atawodi (00:04:35): Thank you for having me. Lenny (00:04:36): It's my pleasure. First, I just want to give a big thank you to Andre...
Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.
Ask with curiosity
Ebi Atawodi (01:06:09): If you have conviction and it's not clear,...
Turns a moment that could become critique into a question about the guest's thinking.
Low-ego framing
uestion. Before we started recording, you told me you'd do DJing on the side or I don't know, maybe full-time. I don't know. I guess, one, where can folks find your DJ sets if you put them out? And then two, I...
Uses we/us, uncertainty, or learner framing instead of performing authority.
Accept praise cleanly
Lenny (01:38:24): So cool. Ebi, I'm in the Ebi fan club. Thank you so much for being here. Two final questions. Where can folks find you online if they want to follow up on anything...
Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.
Ending
I'll do it with the actual controller and record it, and put it on YouTube for fun. Lenny (01:38:24): So cool. Ebi, I'm in the Ebi fan club. Thank you so much for being here. Two final questions. Where can folks find you online if they want to follow up on anything and how can listeners be useful to you? Ebi Atawodi (01:38:35): I'm on pretty much every social platform. My handle is Ebi Atawodi, my name. Work stuff, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram, all of it. And this is maybe a bigger one....
The ending stays curious after the formal conversation is almost done.