Jason Fried

Jason Fried challenges your thinking on fundraising, goals, growth, and more

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Opening
Jason Fried (00:00:00): The reason I think it's great for entrepreneurs to start bootstrapping is because they just have more practice making money, and they get better, and better, and better at the fundamental skill you need to have ultimately to run a successful business, which is to make money. Hopefully, I don't come off as encouraging everyone to be like me. I'm not saying that at all. What I'm saying is, this is a way to be....

The opener names the listener's problem first, then makes the guest useful to that problem.

Low-ego framing
The reason I think it's great for entrepreneurs to start bootstrapping is because they just have more practice making money, and they get better, and better, and better at the fundamental skill you...

Uses we/us, uncertainty, or learner framing instead of performing authority.

Accept praise cleanly
go, "That was worth it. That wasn't worth it." What is the value of saying thank you to somebody? Would you want to A/B test that and, if it turned out that it was worse to say thank you to somebody,...

Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.

Low-ego framing
. Jason Fried (00:17:13): Right. Lenny (00:17:14): There's this book, I don't know if you've read this book called, Finite and Infinite Games. Jason Fried (00:17:18): No, I've not. Lenny...

Uses we/us, uncertainty, or learner framing instead of performing authority.

Accept praise cleanly
Lenny (01:48:29): Jason, we covered everything I was hoping we'd cover. Thank you so much for making the time for this. Two final questions. Folks want to follow up and maybe ask more questions. How...

Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.