Opening
Kevin Aluwi (00:00:00): In the early days of Gojek, there was a lot of resistance to our services. The most common form of that resistance in the early days was actually by motorcycle taxi mafia. So you would have these areas that are essentially controlled through violence by specific area mafia. And when we start having drivers pick up orders and pick up passengers, these people would actually physically assault our drivers....
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Low-ego framing
are essentially controlled through violence by specific area mafia. And when we start having drivers pick up orders and pick up passengers, these people would actually physically assault our drivers.
Uses we/us, uncertainty, or learner framing instead of performing authority.
Accept praise cleanly
Kevin Aluwi (00:05:03): Thank you. Thanks for having me, Lenny. We've finally made it happen after a few weeks or months of going back and forth....
Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.
Low-ego framing
Kevin Aluwi (00:07:58): I don't know what their latest numbers are, but just in terms of the numbers of people and the number of activity, I would place...
Uses we/us, uncertainty, or learner framing instead of performing authority.
Accept praise cleanly
Lenny (01:01:37): Amazing. Kevin, thank you so much for being here. Gojek is such an interesting and important story, and I feel like most founders can learn...
Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.