Opening
Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:00): You were a product leader at Dropbox, then Instacart. Now, you're the PM of the most consequential product in history. Nick Turley (00:00:05): I didn't know what I would do here because it was a research lab. My first task was I fix the blinds, or something like that. Lenny Rachitsky (00:00:11): When someone offers you a rocket ship, don't ask which seat. Nick Turley (00:00:13): We set out to build a super assistant. It was supposed to be a hackathon code base....
The segment is an original transcript moment first. The interpretation should stay attached to what the language actually does.
Accept praise cleanly
Christina Cacioppo (00:04:50): Thank you! Lenny Rachitsky (00:04:55): Nick, thank you so much for joining me, and welcome to the podcast. Nick...
Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.
Return warmth
sers, et cetera, so just keep doing your thing. I am watching and learning, and I appreciate all the feedback. So I'm sure after we fix the model chooser, you guys will roast me for something else and I'll take...
Matches the guest's warmth and keeps the social temperature generous.
Low-ego framing
Lenny Rachitsky (00:08:46): How long does something like this take? I don't know if there's a simple answer to this, but just how long have you guys been working on GPT-5? Nick Turley...
Uses we/us, uncertainty, or learner framing instead of performing authority.
Accept praise cleanly
I'll take it. So keep it coming. Lenny Rachitsky (01:35:05): Amazing. Nick, thank you so much for being here. Nick Turley (01:35:08): Thanks for having me, Lenny. Lenny Rachitsky (01:35:09): And...
Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.
Ending
Nick Turley (01:34:31): Just use the product. You don't even have to pay. Should be your default model starting tomorrow and just use it and don't think about models anymore. Unless you want to and you're a Pro user, in which case you get all the old models. So rest assured. And useful, honestly, I learned so much from people at large and ChatGPT users, et cetera, so just keep doing your thing. I am watching and learning, and I appreciate all the feedback....
The ending stays curious after the formal conversation is almost done.