Noam Lovinsky

The happiness and pain of product management | Noam Lovinsky (Grammarly, Facebook, YouTube, Thumbtack)

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Opening
Lenny (00:00:00): You've worked at so many great companies. At YouTube, when you joined, my understanding is YouTube was losing a lot of money. Noam Lovinsky (00:00:05): There were many times where Google leadership reconsidered the acquisition and, "Should we sell YouTube?" if you can believe it or not. Lenny (00:00:11): At Thumbtack, it looks like you went from 1 to -1 and then back to 1....

The opener starts with biography before advice. That order makes the guest legible as a person before the listener extracts tactics.

Low-ego framing
annel: "Lenny's Podcast" youtube_url: "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_W5Rn0bJWE" video_id: "a_W5Rn0bJWE" description: "The happiness and pain of product management, covering team leadership, career...

Uses we/us, uncertainty, or learner framing instead of performing authority.

Accept praise cleanly
Noam Lovinsky (00:40:29): Yeah, the wine. Yeah, thank you. That's a better analogy. I think we built knowing those sorts of outcomes would also be very beneficial to the...

Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.

Low-ego framing
unique turnaround story. And then with Grammarly it feels like it's like, I don't know, 1 or I don't know, 5 to 100, or wherever you end up taking it. So I thought it'd be fun to talk through each of...

Uses we/us, uncertainty, or learner framing instead of performing authority.

Accept praise cleanly
Lenny (01:08:35): Noam, thank you so much for being here. Two final questions. Where can folks find you online if they want to reach out and how can...

Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.