Tom Conrad

Tom Conrad (00:00:00): There's this belief that everybody needs to be a founder. I think, in some ways, our industry would be much better off if there were fewer founders. There's an entire category of smart, creative, hardworking, talented, borderline visionary people who can raise that $2 million seed and go off and build some stupid company that's never going to go anywhere....

The opener starts with biography before advice. That order makes the guest legible as a person before the listener extracts tactics.

founder. I think, in some ways, our industry would be much better off if there were fewer founders. There's an entire category of smart, creative, hardworking, talented, borderline visionary people...

Uses we/us, uncertainty, or learner framing instead of performing authority.

Lenny (00:04:40): Tom, thank you so much for being here and welcome to the podcast. Tom Conrad (00:04:44): Thank you. It's so fun that I get to...

Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.

Tom Conrad (00:19:42): I'd be like, "No, I don't know anything about baking." "Oh, you like landscape photography. Do you take photos?" "No, I don't take photos." But I...

Uses we/us, uncertainty, or learner framing instead of performing authority.

Lenny (01:39:32): Awesome. Tom, thank you so much for being here. Tom Conrad (01:39:35): Thank you. Lenny (01:39:36): Bye everyone. Thank you so much...

Accepts praise without shrinking from it or turning it into a performance.

Lenny (01:38:40): Okay, great. We're on the same page. We've decided. Let it be known. Tom Conrad (01:38:44): Let it be known. Lenny (01:38:45): Tom, we've talked about successes, we've talked about failures, mental health, general health, all kinds of awesome stories. Two final questions. Where can folks find you online if they want to reach out and maybe ask some other questions that I didn't ask, and how can listeners be useful to you?...

The ending stays curious after the formal conversation is almost done.